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Two best back to back songs on I and Love and You
Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 21:05
Well, since nobody else mentioned it, I gotta say hands down, the two best songs on I&L&U are:
Head full of Doubt Road Full of Promise and
And it Spread
ONLY, if you listen to them on the vinyl. I listened in the car (ripped from vinyl) and thought HFODRFOP was very Eaglish, and if you know The Dude from The Big Lebowski, I side with his take on the Eagles 
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So, these two songs are linked, ok? That's the deal. HFODRFOP honestly didn't impress me much on it's own. However, listening to it followed by AIS, is truly amazing.
I'm seriously astounded.
Ok, there are other great songs on the LP, like Ten Thousand Words, so please, I don't want to discount that one or the last couple tracks (IGOAO and IAS), but, if you want to talk cynergy, I've covered it above.
Lyrics on AIS are seriosuly superb.
Your favorites are? Think, which songs complement eachother..
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i honestly can't pick two favorites. Every single track is so ridiculously good
I seriously can not stop listening to And It Spread. It's magnificent.
Ill With Want. Gut wrenching, guilt inducing, and beautiful.
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Braxton: " Would you like to purchase the super delux 8-Track tape edition featuring a twelve min recording of scott humming to himself in the car?....Yes please."
I agree with Stirred. Ill With Want is so beautiful. Another favorite of mine is It Goes On and On. Honestly though, it is so hard to pick favorites. They are all wonderful.
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Kill the doubt that strangles my self worth
Paint the picture that I swore I heard
Ten Thousand Words has such a nice feel to it. And Head Full of Doubt has so much power....gah, this album is awesome. The chorus of It Goes On and On will be in a movie one day...Probably.
Cheers on IWW and TTW for sure...
Best album side is B (of A-D)
AIS, TPS, & TTW
I would have to say I&L&Y and Ten Thousand Words are my two favorites on the new album. I also love Incomplete and Insecure. I am still not completely sold on the new instrumentation and style but the songs are excellent and the lyrics are really great as well. I have nothing against the band changing at all just would prefer Scott on a banjo over the piano on most of the songs. Laundry Room at their live shows cannot be beat and is one of my favorite songs but I am just not into the album version and I find myself skipping over it which is sad. The edge of this band in my opinion is the banjo and it is virtually gone from this album. Great songs though and looking forward to hearing them live again in Philly , Oct 16!! I got all of my workmates hooked and most of them will be joining me at the show. I am always trying to spread word of mouth!
Laundry Room live is excellent, and IMO, I prefer TPS live as well (encore to Newport?/NPR?).
Believe me, I hear you on the lack of Scott banjo, but TG they killed it on the lyrics. It's definitely different, but it grows on you quickly. You can't appreciate it as much in the car until you hear at your home a few times. The album really flows well, from one song to the next, hence the strong recommendation on getting the vinyl, and a turn table if you don't have one already. It really is a different feel. Someone said a few posts or so ago about the vinyls sounding less compressed; I would have to agree; it really fills the room on vinyl.
Wow, TTW is good...
"The edge of this band in my opinion is the banjo and it is virtually gone from this album." Amen.
It Goes On and On is my least favorite. Not terrible, but I find my mind wandering until mega-awesome 'Incomplete and Insecure' reels me back in. I think IGOAO is indicative of the issue I have with the new sounds....it is a great album, but at times it feels like a good 'indie' rock band. That banjo is what makes it all "The Avett Brothers" for me.
I don't want this to be another negative Wesley post.....I love this album, I really do! So my favorites songs are Head Full of Doubt, January Wedding, ahhh never mind. What's the use in picking favorite Avett songs, you just go back and listen again and say "OH! That one too!" Until eventually you have the whole album.
"What's the use in picking favorite Avett songs, you just go back and listen again and say "OH! That one too!" Until eventually you have the whole album."
haha. so right wesley...as soon as I got done with my post I was thinking about how I should maybe edit it to add January Wedding or Laundry Room or I'll With Want...and then I realized two songs became 6.
I nominate 'Tin Man' and 'Laundry Room'. I appreciate that many folks miss the banjo on LR, but I think the recorded arrangement and mood are more fitting in the context of the album. IMHO.
I like them all. I enjoy them doing something diffrent, I just hope their next album goes back more to accoustic melodies. I kindof feel like this album was geared for the masses to try and pull as many people in as possible. You know and I know most people...not the Avett Loving....wouldn't listen to them right from the start. I think they might be more open to listen to past albums and future(crossing fingers) after listening to songs that sound like they are already on the radio. I'm sure this post is going to stir the S#&!. Just keep in mind...I loooooveeeee the Avett Brothers and respect all that they do.
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Team Avett #5
I wanna have friends...that I can trust...that love me for the man
I've become not the man that I was.
I think my initial favorite was probably January Wedding, then it became Ill With Want, then It Goes On and On...and now I think it may be HFODRFOP....at least until tomorrow morning I'm sure when there will most likely be another one I can't get out of my head!...Seriously, this album is fantastic and there's no way I can pick a pure 'favorite' or back to back favorites.
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I wanna live, and I want you to live happy and free
Sorry_Man,
I can certainly respect your opinion, but I also respectfully disagree. These songs were written before they ever had a major label deal, or had Rick Rubin in the mix. I dunno, it just seems to me like this was the album they wanted to make and nothing else. I love it!
Also, isn't this topic supposed to be the two best BACK TO BACK songs? I nominate Ill With Want and Tin Man. Great combo, and after the awesomeness of Ill With Want, I always forget Tin Man is about to hit me!
Oh my goodness. Picked up my vinyl today, listened through it twice w/o interruption. As for back to back songs, I'm not sure -- too hard to pick! Right now I'm very partial to Ten Thousand Words b/c I heard it live at the L.A. show, and it was so powerful.
A bit off topic, but y'all... how amazing is the album mission statement that Seth wrote!? Wow. With every sentence I became more and more overwhelmed by the insight, eloquence, and maturity expressed in it. Not that I'm surprised...he is an Avett, after all
And It Spread, Perfect Space
perfect contrast, but they perfectly compliment each other
I'm a fan of the last two on the album if we're going with back-to-back songs... It's Goes On and Incomplete and Insecure...
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Peace,
Worth
~~~Roll Tide!~~~
Blasto,
That might be well and good that the songs were written before all of this. But I'm almost certain that the way some of them were played, or should I say, some of the extra instuments used to record, probably wouldn't have been there.
I like both styles but favor the acoustic.
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Team Avett #5
I wanna have friends...that I can trust...that love me for the man
I've become not the man that I was.
Sorry_Man, this quote was taken from an article I just posted.
Bob Crawford, the bass player, said that although fans of the band might be shocked by the instrumentally rich arrangements, the band is in reality using instrumentation that's long been part of the writing process, if not their live performance.
"Piano, for instance, is something we've always used as a building block," he said. "It was just never practical to take one on the road. I don't know if that was a shocker to Rick Rubin. He had researched us, and then we sent him all these demos with piano and drums."
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A live performance is a fleeting moment. A recording is a lasting work of art.
G bogs, Wesley, and Sorry_Man,
In keeping to my original selection of And it Spread as my personal favorite on the album, and to urge you to consider that the lack of banjo has not degraded this album, I would like you to please watch this video of AIS. Watch it and let me know if you still think every song needs a banjo to be powerful, acoustic, and lively:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlM93MlV-iE
Seth's performance needs no words, but to hear and see Scott back there on this amazing drum beat and signing backup harmonies is other worldly; utter brilliance. Man, that would be sweet if they busted this out for Tallahassee.
"Then you came back from space,
with a brand new laugh and a different face.
You took my hand and held it up,
and shot my arm full of love."
My vote:
Perfect Space / 10,000 Words
although I really wish they didn't do the "rock out" bit in Perfect Space.....
Man, I am dying to hear this album. I got the deluxe box set, but I don't have a record player, so I can't purchase/listen to the vinyl. The wait is killing me!!
Initially, I loved January Wedding.. I liked the feel of Ten Thousand Words but didn't really pay much attention to the lyrics.. Those are now my favorite lyrics on the album after listening to it about 10 times last night..
January Wedding is so beautiful and simple. I absolutely love it.
However, I have to admit, I was also a little disappointed by the lack of banjo on this album. Don't get me wrong, I love the songs, but they just don't sound like the Avett Brothers that I fell in love with. The reason the Avetts are my favorite is that they sound like no one else. But I&L&Y sounds... I don't know how else to say it, but, "normal". The lyrics are still as amazing and poetic as always, but the electric sound is just not something I'm used to with this group.
jillian, many people share your view. That is a common topic of conversation around here and avett fans in general.. As for the banjo, I feel your pain.. But I think it was Scott who was saying that on this album they let the songs take a more natural course.. He said that they didn't want to write a song and then play it on the banjo to make it "an Avett Brothers song". A lot of the songs have piano in them, because that is what they wrote it on. They didn't want to take a song that they wrote for the piano, and then change it into their sound..
I hope that makes sense.. haha
But welcome to the boards!
double post, slow internet sucks
can we just cut to the chase. it doesnt matter who decided to change their sound on this album, its just not as good. maybe they should have changed the songs they wrote on piano into an avett brothers song. it would have been a lot better that way. blame who ever you want, but the recordings on this album arent as good as other albums due to the instrumentation. or maybe they are just as good, but for a different crowd. either way, i would have preferred something more along the lines of mignonette or 4 thieves gone. oh well.
I second the HFODRFOP and AIS post :]
And it spread is good but nothing like the live recordings...like from merlefest
And what I mean is And it spread live has so much heart that you get from the live shows. I didnt mean that it is different.
PCGil, I hear you, I just prefer more banjo. I got a fever and the only cure is more banjo.
Best two back to back goes to It Goes On And On and Incomplete And Insecure.
However, each 2 seem like they go great together,
I&L&Y into Jan Wedding, then HFOD,RFOP into AIS, The Perfect Space into 10,000 words, Kick Drum Heart to tie it in together, Laundry Room into Ill with Want, Tin Man into SFOS, the two most different than previous Avett stuff IMO (horn section, violent femmes-ish bass & rhythm and rap bit!?), then the aforementioned last 2 songs. It's all perfect. PERFECT!
I do miss the banjo, but I like to think of it as an album, and not "the new, radio-friendly Avett Brothers". They haven't lost an ounce of creativity, heart, soul, originality, or whatever else fame money or whatever would try to squeeze out of them.
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I'm like my grandma: short, but I stand tall, playing every card that's dealt to me. Some days are aces, and some days are faces, and some days are twos and threes.
The Perfect Space is AWESOME live though. They played it as the encore in Chicago, with Scott switching from piano to drums, then back to piano. My favorite song of the night.
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I'm like my grandma: short, but I stand tall, playing every card that's dealt to me. Some days are aces, and some days are faces, and some days are twos and threes.
my posse at the moment
tin man
slight figure of speech
it goes on and on
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I get your number, with no kind of game
It's kind of funny when people talk about the change in instrumentation on this album. The self-titled and Country was contain many songs completely built on piano. And those are the first two albums they ever did as Avett Brothers.
Maybe some of you need to listen closely to some of scott's lyrics. He has no intention of being stuck in a box and so long to anyone who can't roll with that.
I love this whole album. If I had to pick a least favorite it would be 10,000 words. If I had to. But I don't. The whole thing is great. ill with want is so beautiful.
with the exception of a few yelps and yeas, and it spread is identical to the live versions i've heard. like bonnaroo
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BpT, I think the band, or at least Bobby agrees with you about the rawness-
“It’s a sad fact of life that the more you do something, the better you get at it,” Crawford explained. “The better you get at it, the more you mature. The more you mature, the more you’re going to rein things in and you’re going to be more focused on what you’re doing. You can only hide behind the raw energy for so long.”
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I’m walking with you,
I’m walking with you,
I might miss the meaning, but I’m catching the truth
Isn't Bulletproof tiger the one that "me" was going to kick in the shins? I think that he is the same guy that sat in front of me at the Charlotte show and everytime a new song would be played, he would put his thumbs down and boo.
I don't disagree with Bulletproof Tiger. (surprise, more negativity from me!) Especially the drums. "The drums sound like cheap drum machine" is throughout the whole album. The drums are unlike anything I have heard on any album, they just seem robotic. I don't get it. And to disagree with Bulletproof Tiger, I don't think it's Scott, because the live drums are awesome. Is it just overproduction/Protools? I don't equate 'raw' with 'amateur', and don't expect them to make an album that sounds unprofessional. I'm not looking for 2003 Avett Brothers. I like 2009 Avett Brothers and I like the album. Just the drums...those drums.
And as far as the banjo. I know there are plenty of songs with no banjo, including the majority of The Gleams. I don't mind songs with no banjo. But an entire LP with virtually no banjo? That's crazy talk!
My vote is for January Wedding and Head Full of Doubt.
KOJ: "I think that he is the same guy that sat in front of me at the Charlotte show and everytime a new song would be played, he would put his thumbs down and boo."
are you kidding? did someone really do that?
And I thought Scott and Seth didn't drum on the album at all--didn't they have other people--Simone Felice and Mike Marsh, at least?
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Wish me luck, I know you think I'll need it.
For all the hardest roads we have to walk alone.
Wow, there are some excellent remarks on this thread. There are so many different (mixed) emotions fans are experiencing with the new album; there's something to be said about that. I know it's different; drastically different. "I won't even listen to Tin man"; that had me rolling pretty good BfT. and Wes' honesty; all good stuff. 'Thisheart' pretty much summarized the theme of this post on the previous page.
The fact that we're all still getting used to the new material is obvious; sounds like most are warming up. I'll say it again, the songs sound so much better to me in the home than in the car; someone more eloquant than I can probably explain that better. I am starting to really dig the IGOAO/IAI combo at the end of the album as well thisheart. I am all about Seth songs, but JW is a bit on the cheesy side to me; some males on this board have liked it, so it must not be that. It's more of a 'chick flick' style song to me, which is ok sometimes I guess.
pcgil,
For me, I love January Wedding because it's probably the most personal song Seth has ever written. His songwriting has taken a pretty drastic turn since the Jenny days, and I just think it's awesome to see someone pull themselves out of that rut, fall in love the right way, and then be so open and honest about it. To me it's kind of like The Ballad of Love and Hate. Sometimes it's too direct and it can cause that polarizing opinion of the song.
I'm just glad to see Seth find true happiness after being devastatingly heartbroken, which is something I'm sure a lot of us guys can relate to, even if we don't always want to admit it.
The only reason January Wedding made the album is because it was so sentimental. If it hadn't been ultra personal it never would have made the album. It is the proverbial turd in the punch bowl. It really doesn't go with the rest of the album. With that said, I like the song a lot. The vocals and arrangement are amazing on JW (i'm starting to sound like Simon Cowell).
I was not at any show booing TAB. I would never do that. As a former playing musician I know what it's like to get on stage and put yourself out there. If I didn't like a concert I would quietly leave. I have only been to two shows and thouroughly enjoyed both occasions.
I have warmed slightly to the album and even though I may not totally like all the songs I still listen to it. I think I had very high expectations after Emotionalism.
There are indeed a few songs on here that feel like they reach a whole new level of power in sequence. Head Full of Doubt, Road Full of Promise, and into And It Spreads is definitely an example. But this goes beyond two songs for me... This album just seems so deeply structured for me... Does anybody else here feel that Ill With Want, Tin Man, and Slight Figure of Speech are all very much deeply connected (thematically)?
I think the whole album is very connected thematically, which is what I expressed on the Slight Figure of Speech thread. From the album title, to the lyrics ("three words that became hard to say...") to the change of instrumentation.
Also, Bulletproof_Tiger, I don't think there's a way you could know why JW "made" the album, not to criticize your opinions or anything. I just think they put it on there because they wanted to. From what I understand, they recorded several songs more than they put on the album, and they only put the songs on that they wanted.
btw, I really had a hard time with Emotionalism when it came out, but then found myself listening to it every day on the way to work in '07, and ended up loving it. The same thing happened last year with Gleam II. Similarly, this album just grows and grows on me.
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I'm like my grandma: short, but I stand tall, playing every card that's dealt to me. Some days are aces, and some days are faces, and some days are twos and threes.
I'm like a lot of the people in this thread -- surprised and disappointed in the lack of banjo in this album, and the lack of "rawness." (For me, the hoedown part at the end of Laundry Room just sounds incredibly contrived on the album and I've never liked the middle of TPS -- it messes up the flow of the song, transitionally.)
My roommate noticed that their voices sound different, perhaps more on pitch than previous albums. Maybe this is a part of the "rawness" discussed earlier, but I can't help but wonder if Rick Rubin tuned their voices in production? THAT would be a shame.
However, I have to admit that the more I listen to the album, the more I enjoy it. But what really bothers me is, when I play their previous albums, I HAVE to pay attention and tap/stomp my foot and want to dance around or howl out the lyrics with my friends. This album is more like background music, and I guess that's my biggest disappointment.
(Oh, and the WHOLE point of this thread: Laundry Room + Ill With Want.)
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This is no longer
Only my travel, but yours,
To both you and me.
i doubt he tuned their voices. listen to them live from three years ago and listen to a live show now. the live harmonies are super tight now. so in the studio, with multiple passes, they're even better.
and it spread, perfect space